Saturday, January 13, 2007

Canton shoppes




As I mentioned before, my parents visited the Shoppes at Farmington Valley (in Canton). While there, they picked up a copy of their brochure. Here's a copy of the map on the brochure. And here's a link to their website.

Question 1: How do you feel about this proposed project? Support, oppose, undecided, don't care?

Question 2: What are your reasons for that?

Just trying to get a sense of how people feel.


Tim White

Town Council, 4th District

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is going to be a great addition to our town-I am for it.

Anonymous said...

Wow this looks great-it will create a great tax base and will be a great place to shop. I can't wait to see the plans.

Anonymous said...

I would be more in favor of shops like this than to see residential housing in that area. However, if the shops are too "high end" or expensive, I doubt the entire community would support it. It has to be something afordable to all.
What is your estimate, Tim, on how something like this would effect the tax revenue for the town? Would it have a major impact or just a slight impact?

adb said...

As I have said before, it would be a wonderful addition to the town. It will not only provide additional tax revenue but provide an attractive retail destination as well as additional employment to the town. Its a no brainer and when this gets before PZC, people need to express their support for it, loudly. We need this in Cheshire.

This town is dying a slow death due to inadequate development and an odd belief that it can survive as it did in the the 1940's or 50's without real business being welcomed. We are not going to attract major industry in droves to CT let alone Cheshire. This plan woudl be respectfully and tastefully done.

Anonymous said...

Tim do you support this? Some additional residentail will not break the BOE budget. I find it funny that people in town want it closed now that they are here.

Tim White said...

8:31... This post was about Canton and I believe Canton has no residential. But skipping that point...

I'm uncertain.

But here are my thoughts...

If the project is at least revenue-neutral, then I support it.

By saying "at least revenue-neutral," I mean the cost of increased services are equal to or less than the increased tax revenue to the town.

In other words, I support the project as either a quality of life issue or simply a way to minimize taxes.

But I don't know if the project would be "at least revenue neutral."

And if the project has a "net cost" (that is, does it cost more in services than it generates in tax revenue), then I'm a tossup... would like to hear more.

I'm not really sure how much say the Council has in this though.

Anonymous said...

anon 8:31...Now that we are here?? I've been here for 50 years...where were you?

Anonymous said...

Will the town be providing helicopter service for residents who need to travel up and down RT 10?

Anonymous said...

Anon 11:15, when they proposed the new Stop adn Shop residents cried that traffic would be unbearable, it never happened and it wont happen with a development on the north End. Your assertion is that traffic will become unbearable and it will be a nightmare to get down there, but with the correct design of the road down there and proper traffic planning that will be avoided. You cant keep crying about the potential traffic impact as an excuse not to develop down there while complaining about property taxes and the like. Grow up....this town wants and needs that development. For thsoe of you still thinking this is some pristine 1950' ish town, ist not, its town filled with young families who want responsible development in the town and this potential plan reflects that.

Anonymous said...

Well said 1:51.

Anonymous said...

anon 1:51 I think you need spell check.

adb said...

Sory about the spelling and also the Anon post, I was typing fast and in a hurry! My point is, we cannot turn away reasonable and respectable retail development using excuses like traffic while complaining about taxes, school spending, demanding senor tax freezes etc. This town and its people need this development otherwise in the long run we will face property taxes in the double digit range and or reduction of town services etc. We need responsbile development and this proposal represents just that.

Anonymous said...

This traffic issue is so lame a real red and angry white man argument

Anonymous said...

ANON 1:51...I DONT MIND THE TAXES...BUT I DO MIND THE TRAFFIC ON RT 10..I'M 41 SO I GUESS THAT MAKES ME A GROWN UP...IF NOT, WHY AM I ALWAYS AT WORK?...I'M CERTAINLY NOT ANGRY...I AM WHITE THOUGH..i WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU MAY BE ANGRY...SEE DR PHIL'S BLOG...SERIOUSLY THOUGH, WHAT ABOUT THE SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT? I THOUGHT WE WERE AT OUR LIMIT...WILL THIS PLACE HAVE PLUMBING?

Anonymous said...

Once again another project without anyone doing a "what it will cost benefit analysis." It will add jobs, big deal. It will add traffic, a big deal. It will add a sewer treatment plant the overtaed residents will have to pay for, that is a big deal. It will add another fire station and a direct cause for a paid fire dept, increased police staffing. When it is ll added up, the cost to the residential taxpayers will pay more money to support it each year then taxes from the development. So what have we gained? Increased assessments on a commercial prperty that is not capable of paying for itself. Have not you guys learned from previous commercial development? Whole Foods pays $70,000 property tax on their building and property. They should be paying almost $800,000, but to get them to move to Cheshire we had to give them 80% property tax break. I would move to Cheshire to if I would receive a %80 tax break. The tax break lasts for 8 years. What happens after that?, it is cheaper for them to build a new building in another Town that falls for the same old tax break story. I'm not against development, I'm against development that does not pay its' own way.