PZC May 21 meeting minutes
Both via email and here on the blog, I've heard requests for easy access to the PZC minutes for the May 21 meeting. Anyway, I received the .pdf file and am trying to figure out the best way to post them. Unfortunately, it's 20 pages long and technically difficult/time-consuming to post so many pages. So I'm going to have to play around with the blog to see what I can do to make sense of it... sorry 'bout the delay. Maybe they're already up on the town website? Not sure... I haven't checked. In the meantime, here are the last two pages of the minutes... which are not yet adopted by the PZC. Therefore, you should assume that there may very well be changes... just don't know until the PZC votes to adopt. As well, I confirmed that despite their lack of adoption... they are still public information under the Freedom of Information (FOI) Act. (FOI was a concern raised recently... see, the immediacy of blogging adds a whole new dimension to spread of information... something disliked by those who prefer to control information. But that's not me. If you hadn't noticed... I fall into the camp of people who prefer to put everything on the table... I have no interest in control. I'd prefer to have an open discussion, then decide... just seems more democratic to me.)
Aside from that... this proposed investigation seems to be generating quite a bit of press, huh? At least five articles in only seven days. I can't wait to see where the Herald comes in on it.
So far I've seen Matt Hall, Elizabeth Esty, David Schrumm and David Orsini weigh in. Did I miss anyone? I think five of us have not yet said much of anything regarding the alleged "shenanigans."
UPDATE: Special thanks to CH over at Levers and Pulleys for creating this link to the (unadopted) PZC May 21 meeting minutes!
Tim White
Town Council, 4th District
18 comments:
If you received it as a pdf, why break it apart into images? Additionally, an intact pdf is usually 'searchable.'
In case I'm getting warm, is it because you're only able to host images here on blogger? If so, you can email me the pdf. I'll gladly host it and provide a direct url (direct, not to any page of mine) that you can post.
Tim, what do you expect from the Herald? They have not had one objective article since the W/S debate started. What makes you think they are going start now. I don't think so.
CH... i emailed them to you. if you don't have them, say so. Similar to the town website, I may have had a typo in the email address... lol.
It seems Mr Cobern figured out all the problems. I lost all faith in him. "Barnes and Noble with a cafe" how many thousands of sq feet? Over 50,000. I guess he is thinking real big books. If I was Stop & Shop I would be back to P&Z with a plan for a bigger store. They have the room. He was the one who fought for the 50,000 limit? No increase to the school system. How is he going to control that? Interesting reading. I thought this was a zone text change. Are we getting to the plans a little to early.
about blogger... yes... images (jpegs, etc.) and URLs only.
But I'm not sure how to create a URL. So I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate your help.
I sent along the url via email as well. Here it is:
http://www.leversandpulleys.com/P_ZMay21Minutes.pdf
some interesting stuff in there... including people's thoughts on both residential and retail.
definitely worth a read for anyone who is interested and missed the meeting.
ch - go live in the vermont hills.
What is Voelker talking about, pg 14, "residential creates an internal dynamic in the mixed use project, it adds another area of life; its very healthy for a project and the community; otherwise you have a one dimensional project." Huh!
Where does Voelker get $800,000 net to the town after saying you can't have an impact study without a plan? Let's deal with facts. Lets have impact studies, W/S has a plan and it's on their Website.
Residential is a net positive, $$'s to town, over the life cycle. Sure, after all the kids are grown, in an owner residential area, but at that time the people start to move because of the high taxes. In rental units, they move sooner, and we're not interested in the life cycle, what's going to happen immediately.
Limiting to two bedrooms will make it a net. Ha, Ha, Ha. People will convert other rooms to bedrooms.
All-in-all residential is planned to cash in on our school system at the expense of the current residents.
Mixed use requires 2 uses? Not really. Setting percentage limits, is it legal and would it hold up in court.
ch - go live in the vermont hills.
Why? Cheshire's great as it is. We have a nice balance here.
I'm assuming you'd like to ship me off to spare me from your vision of Cheshire's future, as opposed to its rather pleasant present. If that's the case, why not move to one of the nearby towns that might be a better match for you?
I don't think I'm alone in appreciating the rural/residential mix here in town. Here's an article, linked to by Tim, that echoes my own sentiments: http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/commentary/hc-plcbisbort0527.artmay27,0,7211622.story
How come they are able to post the minutes of June 11 to the P&Z web site, but couldn't post the 5/21 minutes that were about the northend?
Somebody should explain this.
It looks like some people didn't want them posted. These were the most important minutes.
Here's a story for the CH.
Also, the practice of only linking to the most recent minutes should be changed. One can use google site search to find additional files, but that shouldn't be the only solution.
They keep showing the 6/11 P&Z meeting but none of the northend. Why? How do you ever find out when the next one is to take place? The day before. Why isn't Ch 14 used to give dates of meetings instead of showing all the names and pictures as fill?
"They keep showing the 6/11 P&Z meeting but none of the northend"
The developers run this town.
"the practice of only linking to the most recent minutes should be changed"
CH... I've addressed this, but I don't think town hall is interested in this.
(Btw, from my point of view... we should just keep all history accessible through the website. Why take the time to delete the link? And .pdf files for ten years of PZC and Council couldn't take up that much memory.)
"CH... I've addressed this, but I don't think town hall is interested in this."
Tim:
Who runs this town? I thought the Council is the elected body with the power to see that the town government serves the people. If they ignore you, you can imagine how unimportant we must be to them.
The council should determine when TV coverage is needed and what and when P&Z minutes go on the website, not just a couple of staff people. Why are we being denied?
10:40... I'm not sure at this point.
If you saw me at the June 12 Council meeting, it would be fair of you to conclude that I am not a believer that town hall is particularly open at this point... very, very frustrating to me.
I see absolutely no legitimate reason why the FOBK were not allowed into the ERT discussion.
And I see absolutely no reason why Council/PZC minutes for the past few years are not on the town website.
And I have other concerns... but that's enough for now.
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