The PO delays continue
Here's the MRJs take on the "progress" with the post office (by Leslie Hutchison):
The words 'berserk' and 'apoplectic' aren't usually connected with business meetings, but that was the angry mood Thursday when town officials met with representatives of the U.S. Postal Service.
"It was like a train wreck," said Town Manager Michael Milone. "It's horrible." Milone was referring to yet another delay for the proposed new post office on Highland Avenue. He said the town was told last month that construction would begin on the new building in the fall of 2008.
When Milone and several other town representatives sat down this week with postal service officials from Windsor, they were told the construction has been pushed back to the fall of 2009. "We went berserk," Milone said.
Tim White
Town Council, 4th District
37 comments:
so I guess we ought to turn over our health care to the federal government...
The answer is obviously more federal taxes, bureaucracy, and control. "It takes a village."
I'm Hillary. I'm from the federal government. I know what you need and I'm here to help.
Make fun of her all you want, she will be the next President.
God help us.
This is why I quit the Democratic party after 30 years. Most liberals and Dems won’t speak in such overtly feminazi and racialist terms. But these are the sorts of people the Democrats attract and pander to. Why do you think Al Shapton is supporting Hillary?
Angrywomyn is right about one thing: Hillary has to put on a moderate image to get elected. Pity those who fall for it, and God help us all if she does get elected… (too bad if this offends atheists).
Hillary will never be president. Ask some of your women friends. Ask most of your men friends. (real men that is, not the touchy feely ones)
I refer you to the latest Zogby figures. When respondants were asked which presidential candidate would you never vote for, 50% said Hillary. No one got this high a rejection although Tim's favorite Ron Paul garnered a 47% rejection rate.(he's a touchy feely type)
At least many of us know that by simply promising to put everyone on the federal dole for healthcare or giving almost anybody a $5,000 voucher won't in fact pay off clear thinking citizens.
Our next president will probably be Rudy. This country isn't ready for the softball crowd. When push comes to shove we want a leader not a provider of promises destined to bankrupt America.
4:32 PM
So your God is Hillary?
May God help all of us and may he inspire someone who can reach you.
What flag do you want to wave? What country will be a better place for you? Surely they can use your perspective. Iran comes to mind...no they're very religious...Russia, China, Cuba?
You do have a redeeming quality. You support hypocricy if it will help your gang win the election. But in you're world they're is no sins...just bad Republicans.
What's the problem? My mail comes everyday and I don''t have any problem mailing anything, as a matter of fact, mailing is easier with the So Main office. I can't see why there should be a rush to put it way out of town, on Highland where there are traffic problems.
Could it be that someone has plans to use the current PO site for something and wants to get the PO out as soon as possible.
It's starting to look suspicious.
Wasn't Chris Dodd gonna fix this...ooops. he's more worried about the post office in Cheshire, Iowa these days...that and pandering to Moveon.org like Heidi Fleiss pandered to Charlie Sheen
and isn;t there a Congressman who claims to live in Cheshire.....we have seen and heard little from him after his election....I'm sure we'll know who he is in alternate autumms
angrywomyn's remarks are the kind of communist crap they teach in college social studies departments these days, especially in "women's studies" and "black studies." There is no critical debate, just ideological indoctrination.
You'd be amazed at how thoroughly the leftwing has taken over school faculties and curriculum, even at the elementary level. (I speak as a recently retired teacher).
Multiculturalism is the standard social studies program, and the average 5th and 10th grader cannot identify the main issues of the civil war or WWII. Students are told that their stories are more important than the stories of "dead white men." This is a triumph of narcissism.
It’s no accident that young people are denied history. History provides us with frameworks of reference to think critically. The last thing the left wants is people to think critically and independently; they want compliant cliché- spewers like angrywomyn.
October 25, 2007 11:03:00 AM
You certainly sound like an angry, mean spirited bigot that has trouble dealing with women and you thrive on attacking others to make yourself feel superior.
And don't say, "God help us", for you don't live it, but only use it in you attacks on other.
Get help.
To Anon 8:28,
This is Anon.11:03, the retired teacher, responding.
You say I have trouble dealing with women. Well, I AM a woman, thank you.
Now perhaps you can go beyond name-calling by answering these questions:
What specifically in my above post suggests that I “have trouble dealing with women”?
What specifically did I say that sounded like a “mean spirited bigot”?
Are you saying that my arguing in favor of the teaching of objective history, and against the indoctrination of subjective political opinion, is “mean spirited”?
Speaking of “thriving on attacking others,” did you actually read angrywomyn’s comments above? Why are you silent in responding to her?
Or do you agree with her that America is a “racist, sexist country” and that “patriarchal dominance and male privilege” need to be destroyed? Do you agree with her that Clinton and Obama should cynically pretend to be moderate just to get votes?
I have to assume that you DO agree with her -- maybe you even are angrywomyn -- because you criticize my response while not addressing her comments.
So unless you can answer my questions and respond with some actual reasoning, your comments (8:28) are nothing more than hysterical reaction…. and the same kind of emotive narcissism which I was criticizing in the first place.
The good news from 11:03 post. She is a teacher. The bad news is that she is retired.
I suspect there are thousands of retired teachers that feel betrayed by the current politacalization within the educational community. When teaching becomes blurred by political ideology we suffer as a society. At least the math program can't be hijacked...or can it???everyone seems to struggle with that too.
Retired teacher 11:03 and 9:45 here again.
At least the math program can't be hijacked...or can it?
Oh yes, they can and they have hijacked math. You wonder, how can an objective science like math be hijacked by the ideological left?
Curricula like the TERC math program which have been widely implemented in elementary no longer teach number facts, applications or algorithms. Now it's all activities to “explore how children feel” about numbers. The theory is that math facts (like phonics in reading and all rules generally) are oppressive to children's self-esteem. It's how the child feels that matters, not what he knows. More narcissism.
Thus math is going the way of sound reading and civics in public schools: out the window.
The education establishment claims that all these radical changes in teaching are backed by research, but very little of such "research" is critically replicated. It's really just theory, unsound theory which is costing hundreds of billions of dollars.
Meanwhile, the results speak for themselves in widespread functional illiteracy in reading, math and civics among young adults. We've all seen it and surveys confirm it: high schoolers who can't multiply 6X9, employers who report half their white-collar employees can only read at 6th grade level, and young adults everywhere who can't name the two houses of Congress. We’re becoming a nation of Jay Leno’s Jaywalkers.
But then I suppose these observations make me “an angry and mean spirited bigot.”
Hey Retired Teacher,
Anonymous 8:28 who called you an angry mean spirited bigot sounds a lot like the town council member who was haunting this board until recently. Accusing those who disagree with him of being angry, bitter and bigoted is one of his usual tactics.
Don’t expect him to answer your questions with reasoned arguments to back up his accusations. He’s just a hit-and-run name caller.
If it is the caveMAn, you’ve hit two raw nerves in him. He is a liberal Democrat, and he’s very much a part of the public school establishment. He’s also a good example of the dumbing down of intelligent debate which you talk about.
Today is Hillary Clinton's birthday - happy 60th!
And I'm sure angrywomyn is burning flags in celebration. Hail Hillary!
I find it highly sexist and ill-informed that anyone would post a saying that angry women every where are burning flags in celebration of Senator Clinton’s birthday. First off, I do not recall Hillary Clinton ever burning a flag or advocating for the burning of flags. Perhaps, also, if the nation had been run by “angry women” we would be in a lot better shape then we are under the current presidential leadership that has severely harmed the nation on every level, domestic and foreign.
to all readers: There is still time to get your cash offshore before Hillary Clinton and Charlie Rangel confiscate for their vote buying schemes
Thoose living in glass houses should certainly not throw stones. Now we worry about the buying of elections. Is that better or worse then the stealing of elections? Is that better or worse then becoming President of the United States based on a highly questionable court ruling and not based on the number of votes one receives? But I am sure that a powerful and oil rich family name had nothing to do with that!
Stop drinking George Soros' kool-aid, your clueless socialist truther
From the NY Times. Nov. 12, 2001
Study of Disputed Florida Ballots Finds Justices Did Not Cast the Deciding Vote
By FORD FESSENDEN and JOHN M. BRODER
George W. Bush would have won even if the Supreme Court had allowed the statewide manual recount that the Florida court had ordered to go forward.
How is it that anyone could possible know what the outcome of a FL ballot recount would have been. That is why we recount because we do not know with any certainty what the outcome will be. When things are in question or uncertain going back and doing due diligence to make sure every vote is counted is the appropriate course of action. Or is it only democrats that call for re-counts? Seems to me that there have been many republicans who lost a race, asked for a recount, and were granted that right. It is convenient that the party in power suddenly denied that right to others when one of their own were being questioned. I am sure if republicans lose the election in the coming campaign cycles they will gracefully bow out, never ask for a recount and just assume that the original numbers are correct. Or will they?
"I find it highly sexist and ill-informed that anyone would post a saying that angry women every where are burning flags in celebration of Senator Clinton’s birthday..."
The poster who suggested that someone is burning flags to celebrate Clinton's birthday was specifically referring to a previous poster calling herself "angrywomyn," fifth comment down from the top.
As a recent college student I can say that angrywomyn's radical feminism and racism is not untypical of campus activists who support Clinton and Obama.
well, I presume our ranting womym is saying the NY Times is wrong...well......
Thank you Bill K.
"we want a leader not a provider of promises destined to bankrupt America."
George Bush has already bankrupted America. The total cost of the Iraq war is currently estimated at 2 trillion dolars. How much health care could that buy?
Of course, health care is not a concern for those who have it and many of those that have it can't see why there should be universal health care. Who do you think pays for your health care? It's everybody, including people that don't have any. When we buy any product, we are paying someone's health care and when we pay sales tax, federal tax, state income tax, property tax and all the other taxes, we are paying for the healthcare of all the government employers. So before you attack people that want to provide universal healthcare remember your healthcare is being paid in part by the very people you are against covering.
So if your against free health care, let's eliminate all employer sponsored healthcare, and then everyone has the same chance of not surviving a serious illness and has a chance of losing their house or a loved one.
I could not agree more with the above summary of the situation. Also, for the record, I do not believe that ranting is a fair description of my post. Either that or you must live a very sheltered life to look at that as a rant. So what is the real problem? The fact that I was “ranting” or the fact that a women has a strong opinion?
did it occur to the geniuses here people accept less salary to get health benefits...if you want to get paid cash (and probably not declare a lot of it on your return) don;t come crying to Uncle Sam for health care...
The Iraq War costs about the same as the senior prescription drug benefit. so it isn't the price tag, it's that they want the same money spent elsewhere.
BTW, when someone brings gender, race or ethnicity to the table in the debate, you can usally tell that party is losing....particularly when they based their argument on "facts" conclusively disproven by the NY Times
A major concern for those of us opposed to a "universal" healthcare system is government mismanagement. You folks scream about Katrina. Wake-up...that was a government run clean-up and some would argue a government made disaster anyway with insufficient levies, etc. You also whine about the medicare deductions and the VA hospitals.
We're also concerned about rationing of services, the stiffling of competition and the general notion that government does everything better than the private sector.
Government should and must regulate healthcare and its related industries to prevent bad medicines from coming and staying in the marketplace, etc. but it is not the right entity to provide everything for all. We call that socialism and in the extreme communism. Both models fail the staying power of a capitalist system, which is indeed a very harsh system, but it works in practice here in the USA where people are living longer and virtually no one goes without healthcare services.
Hey Retired Teacher,
What did I tell you? Whoever it was who called you an angry, mean spirited bigot who has trouble with women (even though you are a woman) never answered your questions or gave reasons to back up his/her accusations.
Whether it was the caveMAn, or the original angrywomyn poster, or one of their liberal allies, they really are hit-and-run name callers.
cedar lane, you’re right. Not only here but everywhere, the left-wing crowd has dumbed down dialogue by replacing reasoned point-counterpoint with inflammatory name-calling. But then, some radical feminists say that reasoning itself is a “patriarchal construct” that should be replaced with subjective emotion (as long as your subjective feelings agree with theirs).
Why would anybody want to invest and build a new post office in this town when the demand for regular mail is going downhill? Think about it. There is no need for this except it will be good pratice for all the future trafic in the NE. Leave it alone.
"universal" healthcare system is government mismanagement."
No one said that universal healthcare has to be run by the government.
Just like employee based healthcare, it can be administered by private health companies, Blue Cross etc. So just like the employer pays a contractor, the government can do the same.
It was not me who brought gender into the debate. It was you who refereed to me as a "ranting women." The good news is based on your analysis ("when someone brings gender, race or ethnicity to the table in the debate, you can usally tell that party is losing....") it would seem as though your side may be in trouble.
Furthermore, I have not had the pleasure of reading the NY Times article which you reference. I will certainly try to do so. But, I have read many articles in many other news sources that state George Bush (who we all know lost the popular vote) would not have won in the Electoral College if FL votes were counted. The difference is when an article says that, it is the left leaning media putting a spin on things and lying to the people. We are told not to trust what we read. Yet, when your side agrees with something that is printed, all of a sudden it is fact and not open to interpretation or debate. You can not have it both ways. Either way, it does not matter, we were stuck with Bush and he has done immeasurable harm to this nation. That is why the other party is not losing but actually gaining support and momentum. One need only look at last years election to know that that, at least, is fact.
actually it was angrywomyn who first brought gender and race into this discussion, near the top of this page.
here are her remarks again, a real piece of work...
angrywomyn said...
Your patriarchal “God” can’t help you or stop Hillary. She will become president and she’ll empower womyn everywhere by destroying patriarchal privilege and male dominance of the family and workplace. I hope she picks Barack Obama for VP. He’ll turn this racist, sexist country around by empowering people of color and immigrants.
A Clinton-Obama ticket will be the Democratic party’s farthest shift to the left ever! Of course, she has to put out a moderate image to be elected, and that’s OK. I wish Barack would also play along by saluting the flag during the national anthem. I appreciate his distaste for saluting the flag, but they need to get elected!
Go Hillary and Barack!
Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:32:00 PM
The good news is that the national Republicans are getting out of the grip of the evangelical right (only one of the top four GOP candidates is of the religious right).
The bad news is that the national Democrats are still pandering to the lunatic left (no matter how much Hillary pretends to be moderate).
I am a Republican so I guess I just can't fathom that thinking persons would wish Hillary and Barrack on us all. But its possible as post 2:12 indicates.
The weakness in the post is that the results of 2006 congretional elections bear out the tide has turned. I suggest real caition here. The leaders Pelosi and Reid have been abject failures...look at there wreckage of votes.
Iraq will likely be an issue the D's skirt around in several months. Instead therir pet projects, national healthcare, expand the union label, free college for all women and minorities will scare the folks to death.
Look for Rudy in the White House. Look for Bill in the whorehouse and look for Hillary in the mad house.
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