tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21123853.post4064973196516355600..comments2024-02-12T04:30:53.556-05:00Comments on Tim White Listens: A recent history of the Council's action on town pension plansTim Whitehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16588518063096822071noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21123853.post-57024632837071690072009-01-01T20:30:00.000-05:002009-01-01T20:30:00.000-05:00Thinking about 631 pm - - Lugging fire hoses at le...Thinking about 631 pm - - Lugging fire hoses at least in this town is a job of some really wonderful dedicated volunteers. Hope we are able to keep this vital service a volunteer thing. Look at the troubles cities like Waterbury have with their FT fire fighters union and city management. Too many FT municipal employees generally spell troubles for municipal finances. Let's make sure we keep our volunteers happy and appreciated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21123853.post-23090421461036773162009-01-01T18:31:00.000-05:002009-01-01T18:31:00.000-05:00DB vs DC - the town has never offered a fair compa...DB vs DC - the town has never offered a fair comparitive plan for unions to consider negotaiting away thier pension plans. The town has also survived for years without having to make contributions to many of the town pension plans as they were/are still overfunded based on thier liability. The economy is bad now, and everyone wants to take out of the public sector employee pocket. When the economy was booming (and will rebound) is anyone advocating the public sector employee be "rewarded". <BR/> "Retirement after 20 years is a joke even if you were a cop, fireman or anything else" - most firemen/police do not retire and count thier money, they have to get another job and start a new career, it is because of the rigors (physical and mental) that most leave after 20. How many 55-60 year olds can lug 100 lbs of firehose up flights of stairs, or wrestle a 25 year old crackhead to the ground.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21123853.post-28754381452364480882008-12-30T22:08:00.000-05:002008-12-30T22:08:00.000-05:00Pensions in the private sector have been going by ...Pensions in the private sector have been going by the wayside. <BR/><BR/>It is time to face reality in the public sector. <BR/><BR/>It's ridiculous how people in the private sector retire at rates higher than their base rates. <BR/><BR/>Retirement after 20 years is a joke even if you were a cop, fireman or anything else. There is nothing in the private sector that compares. <BR/><BR/>Disability should be the requirement that the person perform another job and not get permanently paid at the same time that they get another similar job with either a another private or public entity.<BR/><BR/>You don't have to look at Detroit to see totally unrealistic pays and benefits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21123853.post-83935517386096703722008-12-29T21:19:00.000-05:002008-12-29T21:19:00.000-05:00Thanks Mike. An already planned followup post sho...Thanks Mike. An already planned followup post should cover the risks / costs / benefits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21123853.post-50733536890947511112008-12-29T21:12:00.000-05:002008-12-29T21:12:00.000-05:00Tim,This is great that you are trying to get some ...Tim,<BR/><BR/>This is great that you are trying to get some traction on this. This should be an absolute no brainer to have DC's for new employees. <BR/><BR/>I think your best bet is to demonstrate the risk and potential liability the town may have as the pension fund shrinks as well as couple it with stories that towns across the nation are facing the same issues.<BR/><BR/>Frugality is coming back; in a big way.<BR/><BR/>Best Regards,<BR/>Mike Ulicki<BR/>CheshireAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com